Lots of work to be done... That said, the SX is still a much lower price point than even Deore, so it's not quite an even comparison. Yeap, we're up in your social medias too. 12-speed SLX set-up and installation doesn't differ greatly from previous Shimano drivetrains and when stacked against 12-speed XT, it’s essentially identical. With 3 gear ratios to choose from and a long handle, SLX offers tournament anglers a complete series of reels that won't break the bank. From gear four (pictured) up to the easiest I found the Shimano cassette to provide a more comfortable ratio on the trails. Shimano SLX DC Review. January 2, 2021 August 30, 2019 by Hernan Santiesteban. When Shimano first presented the Multi-Release technology I remember scoffing that it was just a marketing ploy but in practice, I’ve grown very fond of it. It is offered in a 1x11 option with a wide-range cassette that has a big 46-tooth large cog that makes climbing steep singletrack easier. Shimano SLX M670 Chainset isn’t … Also going to strongly consider a SLX 12spd drivetrain with XTR shifter and chain. It often felt as though the worse I shifted – under load thanks to poor timing or having to bail from a bad gear selection – the better it performed. I don’t think the 51t is replaceable. Ape Index: 1.037 I started with SLX cassette, derailleur and shifter and migrated the derailluer and shifter to XT when the SLX clutch got sticky. It's simply not acceptable on a bike that's made to ride up mountains. The SLX rear derailleur employs Shimano’s Shadow design, which results in a thinner profile that's less likely to snag on trailside rocks and branches, and–because it’s somewhat shielded by the frame–less likely to be bent or damaged in a crash. No idea why, maybe it reminds me of their ‘STX’ grouppo from way back. It doesn’t sound like much, but in the four lowest gears I find things more comfortable with the Shimano gearing thanks to the more gradual steps. But the old NX cassette was a boat anchor compared to the SunRace so the new system is lighter. XT and the SLX models do differ slightly, they look visually different and the pulleys of the XT derailleur come with ball-bearings rather than bushes as for the SLX. Shimano uses mineral oil as the hydraulic fluid. Component Highlights One thing that surprised me was that the old GX 12sp derailleur was 29 grams lighter than the SLX 11sp. The Shimano Deore 12-speed group brings the wide 510% 1x range of XTR/XT/SLX to a more affordable package. This reel has all the features packed into it that make it a solid reel. Inseam: 32” Shimano SLX Review. The clutch on this SLX derailleur has had no issues and it is serviceable. About the only person who thinks GX is on par or better than SLX is SRAM him or herself. According to the internet science wizards (always to be trusted!) Shimano SLX has the features and performance you need at a price you want, Primary use: Mountain bikeGearing: 1x11, 2x11, 3x10 Shifting: MechanicalBrakes: HydraulicBuy it: Individual components at Jenson USA. I'd like to think the Lunar stuff sram put out actually has some performance gains from the new spring and also rearranged parallelogram. Toss an extra few coins in and you get all of the tech from the higher-priced Shimano siblings in a more wallet-friendly package. We’ll get into that below but after spending considerable time on a Shimano XT drivetrain and six months on SLX, I've been left impressed. The plastic packing said 6.3:1 but you can clearly see on the box that it’s a 150xg and not a just the 150 model. But it passed my main test for baitcasters with flying colors. Casting: The minute I casted the SLX baitcaster reel it reminded me of some of the older generation Curado and Chronarch reels, as it confidently delivering baits to their intended targets consistently on each and every cast with the aid of the simple but effective VBS centrifugal casting system. Slow to return SRAM’s aggressive serve, Shimano entered the 12-speed mountain bike market in 2018 with XTR, and then followed up with XT and SLX shortly after that. Impressions: The SLX has been available to anglers since this past ICAST, and over the last half year has become a popular reel at the $99 dollar price point. Well, that lives with you forever, my friend. The cranks are visibly beaten, which I expect for this part of my bikes –a large part of why I opt for metal cranks. (an earlier version of this article suggested that SRAM's XD driver standard and Eagle cassettes are not recommended for eMTB but this was not accurate - although SRAM recommends using their single shift shifter for eMTB). I can’t find the link right now though. I can happily sit in each gear where I often find myself between gears with SRAM. Oh,, and a grip shift for as many up or downshifts at a time as I want. Winner: Shimano SLX M7100 Shimano’s SLX groupset is priced incredibly well – the drivetrain is 30% cheaper than GX Eagle. 490 Reviews. The black coating wore off reasonably fast but since then, there's been little discernible wear. I more regularly use the second gear and not having the softer metal here will see me get more life out of it before it needs replacing. The component group is typically found on bikes ranging from $1,700 to about $2,400. RELATED: What We Think of Shimano's Latest XT Group. Short cranks mean more saddle height. Shimano SLX hiện đang là một trong những cuộn máy câu bán chạy nhất tại thị trường Âu Mỹ. I really want to try out some of the Shimano 12 speed stuff. So now I'm running an 11 speed system with 28T chainring (same GX cranks but replaced a 30T with a 28T) and a SunRace 11-46 cassette (Shimano 11sp cassettes have too big a gap to get into the big gear). 1X crankset: £99.99 Right shifter: £36.99 Cassette: £74.99 Rear mech: £74.99 Chain £29.99 Chainring: £34.99 Drivetrain: £351.94 Love it. I have swapped out the SLX pulley wheels for nicer ones in the past after they crapped out, or when I needed to add another small item to the cart. I was running an NX shifter/cassette with a GX derailleur. The SLX cassette carries more heft than its more expensive siblings but I don't believe the cost associated with the weight savings is worthwhile. As in 150. It does make  a noticeable difference especially once the SLX ones are worn out or contaminated. How much of your Eagle complaint is about the overall integration with the bike? Until preparing for this review, I hadn't touched them at all and haven’t heard or felt anything to be concerned about. It was last updated in 2016, when it gained some style and features that Shimano had previously debuted on its top-end XTR and XT component groups. That sounds like someone I’d enjoy reading content from. The simple BB/spindle/crank interface is dead easy to work with and hasn't been touched since going on more than six months ago. HOME > PRODUCT > COMPONENT > SLX M7000. Shimano won me over with SLX 11 speed. Photos AJ Barlas. We’ve already had the opportunity to test both the new Shimano XT and the SLX 12-speed drivetrains. But that author sells short cranks. There are some subtle differences between the two tiers but they’re minimal. Many other small studies I’ve read suggest riders are most efficient at the crank length that they normally ride. 12-speed, Shimano first introduced the Shadow Plus clutch-style mech to its XTR groupset, but it’s since trickled down to SLX (RD-M675 to give it its full and proper name(, making it far more affordable. Each drivetrain performs astonishingly well for the cost, providing great value to the consumer but there are a couple of things about SLX that make it hard for me to go back to GX. So much that it's the feature I miss most when riding a SRAM drivetrain. Compared to the GX drivetrain I’d come off, the shifts felt tighter and more precise. Shorter cranks are equivalent to larger chainrings. I don’t see any need to dig deeper into my pockets with the performance SLX provides and can only imagine it being a status move, a case of weight weenie-ism, or senseless spending to do so; it really is that good. However, mineral oil may not work as well at low temperatures, which is something to consider if you live and ride in really cold weather. The SLX chain retains the lengthened inner plates that make Hyperglide+ possible but Shimano claims the coatings aren’t as durable. Testing the SLX drivetrain back to back with GX was an interesting process. More brands have Microspline drivers available now and even smaller outfits like White Industries have one for their XMR+ hub. 1. After 700km and some good knocks, the SLX 12-speed drivetrain hasn't skipped a beat. I'm still rocking the 10spd SLX derailleur / XTR shifter combo, it's unstoppable. The SLX cassette has more pieces than the SRAM GX, which is a pinned one-piece design, and that made getting it on trickier. I don't remember them being much of an issue in terms of wear. Don't you loose some leverage compared to a 175? Like a lot of current mountain bike drivetrains, SLX has a clutch rear derailleur that limits chain slap and helps reduce ghost shifting (check out this guide to nail down the basics of shifting). I have yet to hear a compelling reason why we should have rider size specific saddles, handlebars, platform pedals, chainstay lengths and backpacks, but everyone should use the same length cranks. The cranks have been solid. The entire alloy and steel chainring is replaced as one part when the time comes. the percentage difference is so miniscule as to be unnoticeable. Some of it. Weight: 73kg/160lbs SLX, 1. Yes, I’ve also read something like that and they went on to try and sell their short cranks – perhaps it was the same one (I don’t remember where I read it)? Brakes Shimano’s flawless reputation for amazing brakes (how sweet the sound…) took a bit of a hit in recent times, and there have been some running changes made to the master cylinders on some XT and XTR brakes to alleviate a few consistency concerns. Looking at the cranks, there's a slight visual difference to the finish and the SLX weighs a few grams more than an equivalent XT setup (with similar crank length and chainring size). I run tape on the external face of the arms to prevent my shoes wearing them away but anywhere else shows the abuse they've been dished. SLX feels so similar to XT, I honestly couldn’t tell the difference. I get more than 5000 miles on a GX all steel cassette. Shimano still sees benefits in double- and triple-chainring combos and offers SLX with one, two, or three front chainrings Although SLX costs less than Shimano’s more-expensive component groups it doesn’t lack in performance. Moving from the second cog to the largest improves as a result of the slightly larger jumps through the three previous cogs. I believe so. XTR is Shimano's top of the line and XT follows closely behind and there was a time when the performance drop off below the XT level was severe, but it appears that's changing. Happy as heck to be back on Shimano - an old trusted friend. Shimano SLX Review. I get about 2500 miles on an XO1 before having to replace the largest alloy cog and then another 2500. Now it’s your turn to Make Your Mark. I’ve also read the odd article in recent years that suggests longer cranks have little to no gain in output. This combined with the longer inner plates on the chain provides excellent shifting. And GX pricing at both retail and OE is inline with XT. That is with the caveat that I believe upgrading to the XT shifter is a must for any discerning or core rider. It remains that way to this day. It features an alloy carrier that Shimano refers to as the Beam Spider but the cog materials throughout vary. Hyperglide Plus But if the weight were more important, then GX is the way to go, albeit only for 109 grams – 112 grams with the XT shifter upgrade. Weight. Age: 39 As with price, grams are just as easy to quantify, and here SRAM wins one back on Shimano. It's not light (cheap tho) but the M6100 cassette is all steel. So I guess the question is what/if there are any real world performance gaps between 12sp Deore and SLX as the feature set is seemingly identical. But negates all the Shimano 12s shifting goodness. This is after many trips to the LBS where I bought the bike. Gear Review: Shimano SLX DC. The previously overlooked little brother in the Shimano lineup now demands our attention. M7000 Series Explore the new MTB world Why don’t you find the brand-new MTB fun? I'm the same height as AJ and made the switch to 165mm SLX cranks about a month ago. With the correct bottom bracket, the 24mm steel axle fits into any modern frame. The brake levers use a tool-less reach adjust to move the lever position to better fit larger or smaller hands. The XT lever is made of alloy and features a textured rubber surface for more grip. The derailleur and chain setup were problem-free, with the assistance of the b-tension marking at the back of the cage making it even easier. Good review Al and exactly what I figured after my experience with the 10 and 11spd versions. Mitch, in this case, I've actually always used xo1 chains for a bit longer wear life. I’ve been woefully unsuccessful in getting the SLX gears to grind or skip. Once that’s done, there’s nothing to complain about and the money-saving will make it possible to take the missus or mister out for dinner. Or is this a misconception? The current group also jumped from 10-speed rear cassette to 11-speeds, gained a single-ring 1x option, and the brake lever received a sleeker, lighter design. The SLX cranks tested were in the 165mm length and with a 32T chainring they tipped the scales at 625g. The minimal price differential makes it probably one of the highest dollar to performance upgrades you can get. With all the commotion surrounding Shimano’s new XT and SLX-12-speed groupsets, it’s easy to forget that the Japanese component colossus just presented a fully revised version of the XT M8100 and SLX M7100 disc brakes.And not only do they look a lot like Shimano’s high-end XTR model, but also deliver an almost identical performance. SLX Range. The DC Shimano reels have a computer in them. Just a correction note here. Shimano includes a plastic carrier that simplifies things when mounting but it’s still relatively fiddly and less than ideal. Back in the days of front derailers, lots of cranksets came with 44 tooth rings made from aluminium. Shimano SLX 150, Low Profile Baitcasting Reel . Shimano SLX. I expect this of my cranks and it's why lean to metal here. (EDIT: it appears I was mistaken and was thinking of the Deore full groupset cost (w/cranks, etc.) Look at the attachments in the pics with the blue bg, they’re large, sturdy looking pins. Only the 51T cog on the SLX cassette is alloy. It stays better for longer too, GX seems to need regular b-tension adjustment. Built upon high-quality 24-ton carbon blanks, the Shimano SLX Casting Rods cover a diverse range of techniques, while providing a refined blend of strength and sensitivity. Another thing you didn't mention is that while there's a 80g weight penalty on the SLX over GX, you also only pay 1/2 the cost for one, so that coupled with much crisper shifting is an absolute no brainer to me. Without beating around the bush, the 12-speed Shimano SLX drivetrain has features that I prefer over GX. The XT derailleur has noticeably less drag than the SLX and is a worthwhile upgrade IMO. Be sure to turn it “on” before you ride or the chain could jump off the front chainring. Looking forward to your SLX brakes review. Words AJ Barlas. I'll also just add that I recently refreshed my SRAM drivetrain (X01 shifter/cassette (10-50)/chain, GX Lunar rear der), and I don't know if it was the change to the x01 cassette or the new Lunar der, but the shifting is notably smoother and better overall. Shimano SLX Video Review. You may be able to find more information about this and similar content at piano.io, Ibis Ripley AF: a Value-Priced Top-End Ride, How to Ride Rock Gardens Like an Absolute Pro, Canyon Exceed CFR LTD: Ridden and Reviewed, The Most Affordable Mountain Bikes That Shred, The Lightweight XC Bike Showdown: Scalpel v. Epic, Pivot Drops 2nd Generation Shuttle E-Mountain Bike, Evil Unveils Second-Generation Offering Trail Bike, Get the Shredder Something They’ll Be Stoked About, The 10 Best Cheap Bikes for Every Kind of Ride. I dislike the name ‘SLX’. The Choice is yours: 1x, 2x, or triple chainrings SLX is compact, rigid and versatile. Height: 191cm/6’3" That was always the biggest/only thing separating the SLX from XT derailleurs. SLX … With the upgrade to an XT shifter, feel at the lever is better and I now have the ability to shift to two higher gears in one hit, something I find myself doing 95% of the time. The Shimano SLX, sometimes informally called Shimano Six, includes a group of components for mountain bikes. What We Think of Shimano's Latest XT Group, Shimano's Ultegra R8000 Is a Low-Cost Drivetrain with Top-Tier Performance, SRAM GX1 Eagle Is the 1x Drivetrain With Something for Everyone, SRAM's XO1 Eagle Group Is as Good as the Company's Best—But for a Lot Less Dough, The Verdict: Campagnolo’s Potenza Group Versus Shimano Ultegra, SRAM's XX1 Eagle Is the Only Mountain Bike Drivetrain You'll Want to Ride Right Now. They perform the about the same overall. Is the alloy cog replaceable like X.01 giant cog is? His theory is that longer cranks cause your hip to be impinged at the top of the stroke. . Full SLX drivetrain with the XT shifters could be a good min-max project. The Shimano SLX is an incredibly sleek looking baitcaster with a stunning matte black finish and beautiful blue accents; At the rear of the bike, the toughest thing was waiting for a Microspline driver for the Newmen A.30 wheels. Gear. The rear mech looks a little different to the XT (and XTR) but they perform so similarly I couldn't tell the difference. Last year, Shimano introduced the Curado DC reel with its I-DC4 digital brake control system designed to reduce the learning curve for anglers new to baitcasting reels, while raising the performance level for experienced fishermen. As you say, with our more recent geometry, I’m not sure how much it affects us. Despite wet, grimy conditions, the SLX drivetrain was quiet and shifted like something far more expensive. The SLX and SLX XT were first released in 2018 and the SLX DC was released in 2019 and won Best of Show at ICAST for Freshwater Reel. Shimano's four largest cogs are 33t, 39, 45 and 51, while SRAM's are 32t, 36, 42 and 50 (or 52 for new cassettes). And it’s the master in the shifting system. SRAM has some work to do... Not to mention Deore cost/performance compared to NX or SX (puke). Unlike SRAM’s always-on pulley-cage clutch, Shimano’s is engaged with a lever on the derailleur body. Aside from looking used, they’ve gone unnoticed, which is perfect and thanks to the steel teeth on the chainring, I don’t expect a need to change that anytime soon. What sets it apart? Or rather I couldn't once I switched out the SLX shifter for an XT. I have pure NX Eagle on one bike and  I can back pedal on the 50t forever and not drop the chain. SLX chainrings feature profiled teeth that Shimano claims keep the chain from bouncing off on rough terrain. Shimano cranks are offered in just one axle format. An earlier version of this article suggested that SRAM's XD driver standard and Eagle cassettes are not recommended for eMTB but this was not accurate - although SRAM recommends using their single shift shifter for eMTB. The shifting performance of SLX makes it feel like a much more expensive drivetrain and I find the gearing more comfortable. Plus the shifting was pathetic. The derailleur is 265g. No chain drop. There’s plenty of taller people with short inseams and long torsos, in which case this would make sense. Shimano SLX Baitcasters Deliver the Features that Anglers Need, at a Price they Demand (continued). Compared to the two higher-end groups, it uses fewer exotic materials and lower-order finishes. But the glorious feeling of actually pedaling up rooty, rocky climbs? My inseam is about 32-inches, which is the same as shorter friends. Recommended crank length on that frame is 165-170 arms. It's no wonder with the quality of Shimano's lower end parts like Deore that this year OEM has flocked to them for a cheaper cost, but better performance metric. This computer helps activate and deactivate the centrifugal brakes with optimal timing. In fact, the group has every significant feature and technology found XT and XTR. Experience/step-in/explore the new MTB world. Conversely, I spend probably 90% of the time in the largest cassette cog. Shifting down the cassette into harder gears, I found little difference between the two drivetrains but when moving to easier gears the more precise shifts of the SLX were obvious. First ride review: Shimano XT and SLX 12-speed. Shimano has trickled down many of the features of the top two groups to the lower cost SLX group and much of the quality and precision of the top two groups are present here, with one modest upgrade. Mineral oil is less caustic than the DOT fluid used by other brands (principally SRAM), and it does not absorb water like DOT fluid, so it never needs to be changed. On another bike I have 11 speed SLX mech /XT shifter/Sunrace 11-42 on another. Next up, the SLX brakes. Shimano SLX M660 Shifter user reviews : 2.2 out of 5 - 5 reviews. It’s hard to argue there’s anything wrong with SLX when considering value. I've got an 11sp SLX derailleur and splurged on an XTR 11sp shifter for all the fancy shifting options. 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